Posted by: Mike Clough | June 16th, 2010

The Value of Social Media Bots

The Value of Social Media BotsThe world is full of innovators and the minute they see a problem, they go to work on creating a solution. This also holds true with social media.

One of the big issues that always arises when using social media for marketing is the amount of time that must be invested to get results. It takes quite a bit of time to build a sizable community on Twitter, Facebook and LinkedIn. If you are a blogger, you know how much time and effort it takes to publish just a couple good posts each week in order to build a sizable community. And, lets not overlook all the time and effort it takes to prepare a good newsletter and build a community around that.

In response to these issues, innovators around the world have created automated software to handle some of the more time consuming administrative aspects of social media. This software is called “robots” or just “bots” for short. The utilization of bots covers a broad spectrum of applications from increasing the size of online communities to committing illegal acts. Whether or not bots should be used in social media is a question that elicits responses ranging all the way from “why not if they can help me accomplish much more in far less time” to “bots are evil and should never be used.” Consequently, I expect this article will trigger quite a bit of debate as readers share their opinions.

Personally, I came a little late to the social media table. It’s only been a couple of years since I started to get involved.  When I first started, I thought it would be crazy not to use available automation. However, several people advised me not to use bots because there was nothing social about them. They said, “How social is it for my bot to talk to your bot? You need to build relationships and a bot cannot do that for you.” I was also told that if I used bots it would probably result in me being shunned just as “spammers” are shunned. It made sense because who wants to be shunned? So, I avoided the use of bots altogether as I struggled to build my networks and communities.

Then I met an individual who was quite successful in marketing with social media and I asked him about bots. His view differed from that of my early mentors. He felt that what I had been told was only half correct. He said, “Yes, to be successful at social media marketing, you do need to build relationships and bots cannot do that for you. But there are a lot of time consuming activities associated with social media marketing that have nothing to do with building relationships. This is where bots can become very valuable.” This sounded logical to me.

Having a network of millions is worthless to social media marketing if your prospects aren’t among them. Even if I invest the time to develop relationships with them, if they are not my prospects, I am probably wasting my time. My new mentor gave me this example, “I have a great relationship with my sister but I don’t want to date her,” he said. I knew this was true from the very beginning.

About a year ago, I joined Twitter just as an experiment to see if it made sense for business marketing. The first thing I realized was that finding the right people to follow (with the hopes that they will follow you back) takes a lot of time. I would check out the profiles of the people following the people I was following to see if they were in my small business target market. I would also search the hashtag #smallbiz and follow those that were tweeting about small business. All of these activities took quite a bit of time which made building a sizable community of prospects in my target market a very slow process.

My new mentor then explained to me how he used TweetAdder to find Twitter users that were in his target market and to follow them automatically. He has over 100,000 followers on Twitter. Meanwhile, I have only been able to build a Twitter network of a couple of thousand. We all know that size does matter (assuming that they are in your target market). So, who do you think is correct, my early advisors or my new mentor?

Last week I purchased TweetAdder and went from a little over 1,900 followers to over 2,500 in just four days. This may not sound like much, but if I had been doing this for the past year, I would probably have somewhere between 50,000-100,000 followers by now. And absolutely nothing I have done prevents me from building relationships with the people I follow. The software will do many other things like send Direct Messages to all of your follows. Since I haven’t used these features I don’t know whether they hinder or help with relationship building or if even they will make me look like a “spammer”. In my humble opinion, these are the main factors to consider.

These types of tools are also available for Facebook and MySpace as well. So now I am going to make up for some lost time and start building my communities at a much faster pace. This will give me more time to build relationships with those who are following me.

Bloggers can use WordPress Plug-ins and third-party software tools like TwitterFeed, HootSuite, OnToplist and Google’s FeedBurner which will automatically send their article’s titles and links to Twitter followers and Facebook friends. These tools are bots and by themselves can save you a lot of time that you could be investing in relationship building.

Now that I have sung a few bars of praise for bots, I need to address when they can be downright evil. So evil, in my opinion, that I am not going to provide their names or links because the harder it is for people to find them, the better. There are evil bots out there that can add content to a blog on specific subjects after copying it from other blogs. This saves the blogger the trouble of writing original content. Of course, since content is copyrighted, it is illegal to use it without the author’s approval. The blogs where this is practiced are also full of advertisements like Google AdSense and affiliate marketing ads. So, it seems the only purpose for these blogs is to suck in traffic for financial gain. Normally, I don’t mind find advertising on a blog offensive, but when it comes to stealing content that belongs to someone else, I have a serious problem with it. This is why I think these bots are evil and since they are designed to break the law, they should be illegal.

In fact, because my own content has been stolen, I started a LinkedIn group called “The Blog Zone” for the purpose of helping other bloggers find out where their content may have been pirated and what to do about it. Since then it has morphed into something much bigger, broader and better. We still have a subgroup called “Copyright Matters” that addresses copyright infringement and plagiarism.

Anyway, back to the subject at hand… are bots valuable when it comes to social media marketing? When bots are used to perform administrative tasks that have absolutely nothing to do with relationship building, I do think they can be a very valuable resource. But, if you intend to use bots to spew out self-promoting advertising instead of building relationships and endearing the people in your network to you, chances are, you are going to become socially unattractive and your network will unfriend, unfan and unfollow you. You will lose trust with your community and they will ostracize you. And then you will end up being one of those people who claims “social media marketing does not work”.

Now I would like to hear from you. What are your thoughts about using bots in social media marketing? Is it thumbs up or thumbs down and why?

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Mike, I enjoyed this. I really don’t think that “evil” exists, only ignorance, greed and fear, which parade as “evil.” I am going to look into the TweetAdder and see if it makes sense for me. ha ha – I am teetering at about 200 followers, so….. maybe it’ll help increase my numbers.

Patty, thanks for stopping by and sharing your thoughts. It is unclear, how long it has taken to build 200 target prospects, but I am adding over 100 a day since I started using TweetAdder. There are other bots out there as well. I chose this one because three different people for whom I have respect, all recommended this one. I checked it out and it looked good to me. I have learned all of the features yet, but if it nothing more than add 100 new prospects (my target because of this blog is “small biz owners”) per day, it is well worth the money to me. Especially since it is a one time charge and not a monthly charge. The others may also be good or better.

The article pretty much covers all of the reasons that I would say yes or no to a bot. Ultimately it is up to you to build the relationships that are needed to be successful with any type of social media or for that matter to be successful in business period.

My only issue with 10′s of thousands of followers is there is no way that you can ever touch every single one of those people to start a relationship. I have over 2000 on Twitter right now and the rule of 80/20 applies. I only have relationships with 20% of them. I list the ones I want to follow what they are doing and people list me to follow what I am doing.

Do I use automatic tools:

Yes: I use Socialoomph and Hootsuite

Socialoomph: Use to find followers, but I have them held in a cue to decide whether I want to follow them or not. It also gives me the chance to add them to a list right from there which I like. Don’t like the auto follow option. I also have it send Thank you messages to my new followers that usually directs them to my Facebook or Blog (I have them so they rotate and are not the same message every time. I also go in and change them periodically).

Hootsuite: I have the RSS feed of my blog and a couple other relevant sites that automatically post to specific social media accounts. I also use it to schedule posts to my various accounts when I know I am going to be away from the computer for an extended time or I just need to keep promoting a specific event.

With all of this you need to figure out how to best use your time. I choose to still spend the time on deciding who I follow instead of making it automatic. That helps me with the relationship building part.

Insightful article Mike. I should have another go at automated updates to my social network sites for purpose not limited to building an increase of followers. I would find out what value this can have on keeping your voice connected to the seemingly unending internet market of our time.

Mike:

Interesting tool. Are you using it to automate your tweets? What are you using to view tweets? Are they compatible? Do they overlap?

Rob

Well from what I have read, you can automate your tweets. But the only tweets I would think of automating is something that would lend to relationship building. I have not yet decided if I will use that feature or not. One thing I learned long ago is the worst reason for doing some is just because you can.

When I follow someone and receive these auto tweets trying to sell me something, it is a real turn-off. I believe these tweets should be personal and show you sincerely wish to build a relationship. It will take me some time to determine whether or not I do that automatically.

I use TweetDeck to view my tweets as I like the features. But the software resides on my computer and is a system hog. I may switch to HootSuite (web based) but I need to check out the features since their recent updates to see if it has caught up with TweetDeck yet.

Anyone else know how TweetDeck and HootSuite compete?

Thanks Mike for the great article. I have mixed feelings about automation too. I agree that it is great for handling the administrative end of social media marketing, but not for the relationship-building part. I am trying to decide what will work best for me. Thanks for everyone’s comments/suggestions/experience. :)

I actually prefer Hootsuite over Tweetdeck. It offers a lot of the same features, but to my knowledge Tweetdeck does not offer Team Collaboration and does not have the RSS feature. (I could be wrong on this because I am sold on Hootsuite.)

For me, being able to access the searches and accounts I have set up from ANY computer is a huge benefit which is why I got away from Tweetdeck a long time ago. I have two laptops that I use-one is my “desktop” and the other is a Gateway netbook that is my portable workstation.

As far as automation of tweets, like I said in my previous post, it is good for promotion of events, reminders, or new blog posts. I use it, but I am also monitoring all my accounts so that if I do receive comments or mentions on those tweets I can respond within a reasonable time. (That is also why the automation should be set up so you know you will be available at those times to respond.)

My biggest pet peeve right now are the companies that are using Twitter, Facebook, etc. who are just pushing their message out and not monitoring the activity. When I send you a message on any of these mediums I expect some sort of response. If I don’t get it (and I am sure this is true for anyone else they are ignoring) that person has lost me as a customer. Lot’s of these people have also lost a potential sale, because I am asking them specific questions about whether they have XYZ product. In my opinion this is like not returning a voice mail message or email.

If you are going to do any form of social media you better be monitoring and engaging. Not going to do that, then don’t have a presence at all.

Jamie, I agree with you totally.

BTW, I have a HootSuite account but all I use it for is to feed blog updates to Twitter. I know they have done several updates since I set up the account a year or so ago (so has TweetDeck). So I will need to go in check it out. If all other things are equal, just the fact that is web based and TweetDeck is not, is a good enough reason for me to switch.

Mike – Your article is very timely and insightful. I believe that the ever expansive world of social media networking requires smart and progressive management of the various tools available. I would expect to see the social media tools list growing. As for the small business person, social media bots are essential to the equation – used in the right way. I attended a social media seminar yesteday and one of the audience members mentioned posterous.com as a tool that helps manage a variety of social media outlets. The concept is using email to auto post various social media outlets. I’m going to explore this more.

Thank you for sharing info re: bots. Personally I do not think you are late to social media. Too many people jumped in without a strategy or commitment. You appear to be focused. Re: community – it is all about quality vs. quantity. We are not all Starbucks, so for me bots will not be part of my execution.

Jamie, I was in checking out my HootSuite software last night. There have been some improvements. However, one of the things that I liked about TweetDeck was that it allowed for multiple accounts at the same time. In other words, I can monitor more than one account at a time. I may have missed it (it was quite late) but I could not find that feature with HootSuite. Am I missing something?

Of course, this would only be important to those with more than one account.

LaVon, one of the exciting things about social media is that it is evolving. New tools emerge – other tools die off. So it is important to stay tapped in, try new things and blog/comment about them.

I usually learn about something new from reading blog posts. Without that, I’d probably never know about it until it became a star! :-)

Mike,

You can monitor several accounts at once. It just depends on how you set up your columns and tabs. I currently have 8 twitter accounts, 13 Fan Pages, my personal Facebook, 2 other Facebook profiles for clients, my Linkedin, my foursquare, my twitter lists, and several on-going searches.

For posting I have all those accounts plus my ping.fm account so I can post to places that are not supported for monitoring within Hootsuite (yet).

There are even features I haven’t tested yet, such as the team collaboration (I am the team right now *smile*), but I am sure it will be great for when I need it.

LaVon, Posterous.com is useful for posting to several networks at once, but it is not an application for monitoring. It is a blogging platform that you can post to from email and then it posts the link to the blog to your other networks. If all you are wanting to do is auto-post blog entries and have the links automated to your social accounts it is great, but it doesn’t offer any way to monitor the individual accounts. I used it when I first got started, but doesn’t work for what I am wanting to do now.

With any of this there is no cookie cutter way that is going to work for every person. You know what feels right to you and what you like. Try things out and if they work I say use them. If not…well you get the picture:)

Good article and comment thread! My 2 cents to the conversation is simply in agreement with most of what has been said. A summary note on my part would simply be this: We need to deliberately and carefully think through our marketing strategies, and strive for not just quantity, but quality. Our outcomes should not be random, but achieved through strategic fishing efforts. Some random will happen, of course, but that cannot be our point of reliance.

Wow Jamie, I am impressed. Guess I know what I will be doing this weekend! :-)

David, I agree with you totally! I hear arguments on both sides of the quantity vs. quality issue. I think both are very important. A millions friends, fans and followers will do you no good if none of them are your prospects. On the other hand, what good is it if all of your friends, fans and followers are solid gold prospects if you only have a handful?

And about relationship building. Believe it or not, every prospect out there does not want to build a relationship with you. Thank goodness there are plenty that do. But how can you tell ahead of time which are which? You can’t. So there is safety in numbers even though you will get some chaff with your wheat. It ain’t perfect and sometimes not pretty. :-)

Mike, “Not every prospect wants a relationship” is so, So, SO true!

In fact, I can think of times when I have signed-on with a company’s marketing list just out of casual interest, but after being inundated with phone calls and personal emails I have unsubscribed just so they would leave me alone.

Their approach (for me at that stage in the process) was far too intense. Whatever potential there might have been for me doing business with them in the mid- to distant-future was [unfortunately] lost due to “the smothering effect.”

Naturally, how would they be able to predict that? However, we can be sensitive to “The Smothering Effect” on the whole in regard to our marketing plans and devices.

David, my personal strategy is to reach out and let them know I am available whenever they may need me. The way I see it is the next move is there. In the meantime they may receive a few newsletters (not too many to feel spammed), they may choose to read my blog or my comments on other blogs, possibly see me involved in discussions in various groups and forums, but the next move is theirs. However, I am also very conscious that I must make it easy for them to reach out me when they are ready. Try talking to a live person at Facebook or Twitter. I don’t think it can be done by the average person. :-)

Mike-Flattery will get you everywhere:) Thank you and I think it would be worth taking a second look at.

David-You make such a good point. I think that companies can get a bit overzealous in their efforts and now with the ability to find 10 other choices at the click of a button they really need to rethink how they are contacting people. “The Smothering Effect” is a great phrase by the way.

Jamie… As one very dynamic and astute person said earlier today, “Flattery will get you everywhere!”
(Thanks for your compliments).

Mike – a great discussion,as usual. I always learn lots of new info from your blog + the thread that ensues. I vote for bots that do everything on the up & up, doing no harm, nothing illegal.

Ruby

Wonderful article. I really like the information that was provided in the article. Looking for more of these articles in future

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